Gary Roberts

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Naj
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Roberts: Yes I was aware of that loose correlation, not that correlation implies causation, but it's always nice to see things backed up by facts.

Also, most likely that age group is also part of the demographic shift and may change over time as well. It bell curves at the point where the newer generations that know how to use this "newfangled internet contraptions" have the money and the freedom to make purchases of this nature. That's pure speculation on my part, though, and 277% of statistics are made up, so who really knows for sure.

I'm also going to chime in on the Black Van bandwagon. Was one of my earlier exposures in my early years and has stuck with me since. :22
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OK you guys, tell me..if you dare...what exactly IS it about that very first "Black Van"?
Why did THAT one make such a hit?
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My excuse is that I was young and impressionable and sheltered, like play doh. I really only saw a small part of it at that age (it was part of Fansadox 22, the part with the paint cans and the drill), but when I look back and compare it to the rest of that lot, I would say it was probably the visual intensity of it which is why I remember it. Now I know that's an ephemeral statement, but that's my best guess: the girls' expressions and body language, along with the squiggly lines representing them trembling (I never remember what those are called), seem to convey the most intensity and outpouring of emotional distress of the lot, whereas everyone else's seem static by comparison.

It might also have been just one of those zeitgeist things. I couldn't tell you.
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Oh I have my theory...but i want some input. Need data.
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Well, that's my two bits. Art isn't easily quantifiable.
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How much time ya got? Wellll...like I said in my other post, loved the contrast in body type between the two chicks---busty blonde bombshell and cute-as-(cherry)pie-girl-next - door brunette. Also, those chicks are so f-ing hotly-drawn---possibly the hottest - drawn chicks I've seen. There are others, like the brunette from Gisele or that hot - ass blonde from Dungeon who gets f@cked by that dildo machine (and so many more), but my attention always keeps straying back to these two. And oh, the perversions that these girls go through---someone get the fire extinguisher---I am burning up!!! Especially the sequence where the dudes double - team the brunette---my stars---that was soooo hot! In this comic you run the gamut of what can be done to two girls: ass f@ck, blowjob, cum on body, multiple creampies, tazering, whipping, choking, electrocution, biting, double-team, r@ape by shower attachment, nipple pinching, dildo play, ball - gagging, being sold off as sex slaves, being gangbanged by...gangbangers and being chained to a toilet and getting pissed on. Oh, you sick, sick man---how could we all NOT fall in love with the original Black Van? It essentially encapsulates in one comic just about every sick fantasy a guy could have with two archetypal girls utterly helpless to stop the madness. Man, if you created a reprise of some kind with the original cast of Black Van, sales would probably blow the roof off the joint! Sorry I couldn't help myself from going on and on about the comic, but it is my all - time fave. Bet you couldn't tell. How's that for feedback? :22
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There are a couple of pages in the second Black Van comic that I associate with DF comics more than anything else.
It's the ones where the dark-haired girl from the first Black Van is forced to ride the black dude with the huge cock whilst the blonde girl is ushered off to the bathroom for her sub-par cock-sucking skills. There was something about the composition of those pages as well as their content that has always stayed with me.
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Wow guys......do go on..
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Well...if you insist! This too was one of my first exposures to bdsm comics, but my affinity for the Black Van is not simply because of its timing, but rather because of its quality. I know you downplayed the artistry of the comic, as it was one of your earliest, but I think you started off with a bang---a "BIG BANG" (ha)! If you can bear with me, I will expound upon two reasons as to why I feel the Black Van has so resonated with your readers.

First of all, I know that you said this was your "simplest idea", but I think there is a beauty in its simplicity. For instance, while the scenario is pretty straightforward---kidnap two girls, get them in the van, take them back to the workshop, show them a good time, and then sell them off---it's the variety of depraved things that occurs within the context of the simplified scenario that makes the comic such a pleasurable product! Sometimes a story line that is overly elaborate can actually detract from the erotic experience because a complex story line needs a lot of panels dedicated to moving the plot along and developing the story, and that means less actual sex. I think, and I don't know if you also share this theory, that what has resonated so greatly with admirers of this comic is that it is pretty much sex, sex, sex throughout, without getting too bogged down in story/character development. Now, that is not to say that you don't get character development; rather it is developed through the sex and the depravity of their ideas/words as they are engaged in their nefarious acts (ie- "So now I can strangle this bitch while I cum in her ass?"). Furthermore, because the story line isn't overly elaborate, the focus is on the girls, who are pretty much in almost every frame, thus the reader becomes extremely invested in these characters, and in that sense, the story is quite intimate (in many respects, you take a similar approach in your Sisters comic---yet another classic!).

Secondly, each page of the comic is such a cinematic experience; it feels like a well-shot film in its presentation of the sex---much more variety in "shots" than, say, a traditional porno film that holds a solitary steady shot from one angle for extended periods of time. For example, take the scene where the brunette gets double-teamed; it shows her experience just prior to the second penetration from a wide shot that establishes the composition of the scene. Then you zoom into an inset panel that is an extreme close-up of the "minty member". This is followed up by another inset panel in which we view her from above, lending the reader a great view of her terror. Next we switch to a medium shot from the side that is level with all three characters, thus affording the reader a perfect view of the second man entering her (this image is quite masterful). After that we have an aerial view of her and her partners, which then transitions into the multi-paneled montage where you portray the "motion" of the brunette's double-penetration in hyper-realistic detail, first from afar, and then closer up (that was truly inspired, btw!). Finally, the scene culminates in the dual climax, which is presented from a completely different angle than all the others in the sequence. This change in perspective serves to further heighten the moment (as if that was even possible!) because it presents a unique view of where her body is positioned, sandwiched in between her two captors' bodies, trapped in a moment of pleasure and pain. I hope that in presenting this scene in a cinematic way, I can highlight the true artistry and innovation that has so inspired me, not only in this comic, but in all of your work.

Well, I could go on and on, but I will give others a chance to chime in. Anyways, I have to get back to work on my dissertation on the Black Van comic. Once I get my doctorate, I think I may teach a course on it. God knows they've droned on and on about dead authors like Shakespeare and Milton---I think, in this enlightened age, that Harvard is ready for a 500-level Gary Roberts course. :geek:
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Somehow, I don't see my work being presented as curriculum in the halls of higher learning anytime soon..maybe a century or two on, when civilized scholars decide to study the depravity and overt sexuality of 21st century Americans.

I do believe my long background in film, and specifically as a key scene illustrator and storyboard artist, might have contributed some to my choices of shots and angles..could be, eh? Or maybe I'm just a crazed sex fiend who likes to tie up and r@ape pretty young girls? On paper of course....ahem...
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